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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:43:24 PDT
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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 10 Aug 94       Volume 94 : Issue  894

Today's Topics:
                      Car warrantee and 2m radio
                          Charging gel cells
                            Frequency Hunt
                              FTP Sites
                     Improving CW speed (2 msgs)
                   Instruction book for Gladding 25
                   IPS Daily Report - 09 August 94
                            Need ARRL Info
                       New Mod info for TH-78A
                       Obtaining a US callsign
                        PS Smith chart [where]
               Question about power supply for HTX-202.
        Thanks for all the help about improving my code speed

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 01:21:18 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Car warrantee and 2m radio
To: [e-mail]

OK Guy  Elementry Electronics:   You cars engine is the most unshielded
electrical device in the vehicle.  It does not interfer with the cars
electronics.

The next time you folks get stopped by our nations finest look at the
car that stopped you.  VHF ( 155 mhz) UHF (800 mhz), computers under the
hood and in the passenger compartment.  Light bar on the roof (hell my light
bar interefered with my two meter rig before I fixed the light bar), Flashing
head lights.

If your still coherent enough after you get into a wreck or have a heart
attack worrying about car warantees, check out the ambulance that arrived.
Five times as meny lights as the police car and an small repeater on board
to boot.

Before you say it. THERE IS NO SPECIAL EQUIPMENT ON AND AMBULANCE TO PREVENT
RFI.  Unless a cop, firefighter or paramedic is a ham or Cb'er they don'y even
know what RFI is.

Any car manufacture that tells you radio will void the warrantee is full
of fecal matter.  If GM a GM dealer tell you this drag his fat arse down
to the local police station and ask him to explain that warantee again.

As for the guy who was out 1200 dollars because his engine happen to blow
at the same time as he transmitted - Ask him to get that policy and writing
and then hand it to his lawyer.  My lawyer called me earlier today and ask
me to read this thread.  I assure you he enjoyed the laugh.

If the dealer you go to tell you the warantee will be voided, tell him to
kiss you arse as you leave his business.

73's
Pete  who isn't flaming just stating facts...., N2BLY
--
Peter P. Benac
North Winds Systems, Inc

Specializing in Custom Data Communications Solutions for DOS and Unix
Voice: 1-315-598-9212
Compuserve: 74151,2703
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:11:01 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!fmsystm.telemax.com!fmsys![e-mail]
Subject: Charging gel cells
To: [e-mail]

In article <3262fs$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark D. Conner) writes:
>I am looking for some info on charging gel cells.  At what point
>should you recharge the cell (drop to what voltage), and how do you
>tell when the cell is fully charged?  I put my cell on the charger
>when it dropped to 11.6V, and monitored the voltage while charging.
>The cell came back up to 13V fairly quickly, and after 2-3 hours the
>charge current was down to about 70 mA.  Since I was going to bed, I
>disconnected the charger rather than leaving it on all night.  Is
>there a voltage or current threshold for determining when the battery
>is fully charged?  The cell has a 7Ah rating.

Here's a long, but concise reply that will help you properly care for
these fine batteries:

The generally accepted way to charge a lead acid battery (gel just means
gelled electolyte, BTW) is bring it up to charge using 14.3 vdc until
the charge current begins to drop off, then to "float" it at 13.6 VDC.

This float voltage will not overcharge the battery due to its internal
resistance.

We usually put a battery discharged to 11.0 volts (full discharge) on
14.3 vdc for .5 hr for each AH of rated capacity, then float it.  If
the battery gets hot, drop to float voltage immediatly, you'll boil
away the electrolyte.  They do get warm while recharging initially.

You can recharge them at a "trickle" rate just by using 13.6 vdc as
well.  After a series of charge/recharge cycles, the cells will
discharge unevenly and eventually you'll need to "equalize" the
cells with 14.3vdc charging as above.

Lead acid batteries emit hydrogen gas during recharge.  Adequate
ventilation is required.  Discharged batteries should be recharged
before storage, and kept in a cool place, on a shelf.  Recharge
stored batteries every three months, they tend to discharge due
to internal cell resistance.

If the terminal voltage reads 13.4 vdc when you remove the charger,
its probably charged.  Most batteries will drop to 13.0 vdc in the absence
of charging voltage pretty quickly.  The only accurate way to determine
a battery's status is through discharge load testing.

We use two 1157 auto lamps on clip leads for a quick test of a battery's
capacity and status.  With all four filaments lit, the load is 4 amps,
a good test for 4ah to 12ah cells.  If you get bright illumination
for a couple of minutes, that's a pretty good indication you have
a working battery.  Don't buy used gel cells unless you apply this
test first.

Anyway, we buy and use small gel cells by the case here (F M Systems
is an alarm company) and that's what works for us.  Much of our info
came from the fine people at Powersonic and Yuasa/Exide.  They publish
some excellent tech notes on these topics, BTW.  The charger schematic
in the Powersonic notes is useful for a basic charger design.

Note that Ni Cad batteries are an entirely different chemistry with
very different charging and operating characteristics.  Don't use this
info with Ni Cad batteries, it doesn't work, and you'll damage the cells.

Regards,
--
Macy M. Hallock, Jr. N8OBG  +1.216.723.3030  [e-mail] [e-mail]
Telemax, Inc. - F M Systems, Inc. 152 Highland Drive  Medina, OH 44256 USA
--
Macy M. Hallock, Jr. N8OBG  +1.216.723.3030  [e-mail] [e-mail]
Telemax, Inc. - F M Systems, Inc. 152 Highland Drive  Medina, OH 44256 USA

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Date: Tue, 09 Aug 94 20:15:55 GMT
From: news2.new-york.net!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj![e-mail]
Subject: Frequency Hunt
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>I have several radios and am in search of frequencies for my local area
>and surrounding areas. I live near the Gila River Indian Reservation in
>South Central Arizona.   JOHN   am looking for ham repeater as well as
>local PD/FD frequencies.
>

Get hold of the ARRL Repeater Directory for ham repeaters:
American Radio relay League
225 Main Street
Newington, CT

For PD/FD, I recommend Police Call Radio Guide and Beyond Police Call.
Available at Radio Shack or contact publisher at:
Hollins Radio Data
PO Box 35002
Los Angeles, CA 90035

--
Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - [e-mail]
"This whole dot-dash concept sounds interesting, Mr. Vail. Why don't you let
me look over your notes on the train to the Patent Office?" - S.F.B. Morse?

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Date: 8 Aug 1994 22:03:04 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!chaos.dac.neu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: FTP Sites
To: [e-mail]

In article <31qsk7$[e-mail]>,
Jeff Racz <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Bob...
>
>Try ftp.ucsd.edu in the /hamradio directory and ftp.funet.fi in the /pub/ham
>directory.  Lots and lots of stuff to download.
>
>73...de KJ5AZ, Jeff Racz, Houston, Texas
>[e-mail]


And, let's not forget...

oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio



Scott



--
Scott Ehrlich, Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z   [e-mail] [AX.25 Packet]
How to reach me: [e-mail] [Internet], [e-mail] [TCP/IP Packet]
Boston ARC ftp archives: ftp oak.oakland.edu /pub/hamradio
Boston ARC Web page: http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html

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Date: 10 Aug 1994 02:09:17 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Improving CW speed
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Trey Garlough WN4KKN/6) says:

>Secondly, I keep hearing this saying "good CW operators eventually learn
>to hear words rather than characters when going at high speeds."  This
>has never been the case for me, or at least it has never felt this way
>in my brain.  Perhaps this is why I never advanced beyond 65ish WPM.  I
>only mention this because I don't think it's necessary to "hear words"
>to be a competent CW operator.

This gent knows whereof he speaks, and it's encouraging to me (who has
not quite advanced to the above 65ish wpm...) to hear that the fast ops
don't always hear words.  OK, perhaps I recognize "the", but do the people
who tell us to recognize words believe that "seven" and "sever" sound like
different words, in the same way that the morse symbols for C and Y sound
very different even though they only differ in the last of the 4 symbols?

I suspect that the faster ops don't really know how they do it...  I still
think I "see" the dots and dashes as I hear the code, and translate it by
what it looks like (this is at my limit of about 35 wpm), but then I see
an ad with CW written out on the page, and I have to sound the words to
interpret them, rather than looking at them, so I guess I am not really
seeing them when I'm listening to code after all.

It's probably like going to sleep - if you think too hard about how to do
it, you'll be awake all night.   There was no magic that took me from 0
to 35 wpm except using the code a lot, and treating it as fun rather than
a chore.

I was off the air for 25 yrs and when I got bitten again I found that I
could copy CW at 20+ wpm as soon as I heard it again.  It's encouraging
to know that it stays in deep freeze.  The thing I have to worry about
now is my speed going down, now that I am into my second half-century,
just from natural deterioration.   Anyone want to comment on whether
this happens, or is code copying the last thing to go, after you have
forgotten your wife's name and your telephone number?


Derek Wills A5B? - no, BTA5..? -  er, no.. oh yes, - AA5BT
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
[e-mail]

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Date: 10 Aug 1994 01:58:44 -0500
From: cs.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Improving CW speed
To: [e-mail]

Just a few recipees that worked at least in my case:
1) Just don't care, BE on the air in CW, the average operating speed is
different on the various bands, 7 MHz and 3.5 MHz are better for hi speed
operation (at least in EU)
2) Use at least an elbug with dot/dash memory, many hi speed operators
prefer touch sensors. The paddles must be of good quality.
3) Don't be discouraged if others are faster than you... Try to contact
fast stations, it's not a shame to ask for QRS. In general, hi speed
ops start learning the code as teens and/or have a musical talent...
4) A general CW rule says you should never transmit faster than the
station you are in contact with. You can break this rule when contacting
old hams. The deterioration that Derek mentioned usually concerns the
sending ability, not so much the hearing ability.
5) In EU there are several clubs that promote hi speed operation. To
join you need sponsorships from other club members at certain speeds.
Such a sponsorship QSO must last typically 30 min. There are clubs
for 25 wpm, 40 wpm, 50 wpm, 60 wpm. If you have decent antennas to get
thru to EU at hi speed CW, try to join (just ask for details on the air).
6) Try to avoid standard QSOs. Ragchew qsos are much better for training.

73 de ik2rmz

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Date: 10 Aug 94 10:57:36 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Instruction book for Gladding 25
To: [e-mail]

"Dave" recently asked for the schematic for a Gladding 25 2-m rig.  I have
such a rig AND ITS INSTRUCTION BOOK.  Dave, please send e-mail to me directly.

Bob W3OTC   [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 23:21:43 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!trane.uninett.no!ifi.uio.no!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!news.ci.com.au!metro!ipso![e-mail]
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 09 August 94
To: [e-mail]

SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 09/2330Z AUGUST 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 09 AUGUST AND FORECAST FOR 10 AUGUST - 12 AUGUST
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  75/13

GOES satellite data for 08 Aug
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   9.9E+05
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  1.5E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 4.7E+06
       X-ray background: A1.8
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             10 Aug             11 Aug             12 Aug
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 10 Aug:  76/14

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: mostly quiet.

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 08 Aug
    Learmonth        6  3221 1221
    Fredericksburg   3                           2
    Planetary        6                           2

Observed Kp for 08 Aug: 1000 1112

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
DATE      Ap    CONDITIONS
10 Aug    25    Unsettled to active, with isolated minor storm levels
                possible.
11 Aug    25    As for 10 Aug.
12 Aug    20    As for 10 Aug.

COMMENT: IPS Geomagnetic Warning 2 was issued on 7 August and is
current for interval  10-12 August.
-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
09 Aug      normal         normal         normal
PCA Event : None.

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                LATITUDE BAND
DATE        LOW            MIDDLE         HIGH
10 Aug      normal         fair           poor-fair
11 Aug      normal         fair           poor-fair
12 Aug      normal         fair           poor-fair

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
       Observed
DATE   T-index  MUFs at Sydney
09 Aug    28    Near predicted monthly values, apart from
                enhancements of 30-50% from 15-20UT.

Predicted Monthly T-index for August: 20

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
DATE   T-index  MUFs
10 Aug    30    Near predicted monthly values, with enhancements of
                30-50% leading up to local dawn.
11 Aug    30    As for 10 Aug.
12 Aug    30    As for 10 Aug.

COMMENT: Local propagation conditions may be degraded in association
with geomagnetic activity from 10-12 August. MUFs are not expected to
be significantly affected.
--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney       |IPS Radio and Space Services
RWC Duty Forecaster   tel: [phone]  |PO Box 5606
Recorded Message      tel: [phone]  |West Chatswood NSW 2057
email: [e-mail]  fax: [phone]  |AUSTRALIA

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:37:02 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org![e-mail]
Subject: Need ARRL Info
To: [e-mail]

Daniel Meredith ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I am looking for an e-mail address to the ARRL for information
: inquiries..

If you need to speak to a human, rather than the info-server, technical
questions can be directed to [e-mail], the Technical Information
Service.  If you want a list of email addresses for HQ staff, send the
following message text to [e-mail]:

send users.txt
quit

Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services

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Date: Tue,  9 Aug 94 21:13:32 EDT
From: iat.holonet.net!synergy.org![e-mail]
Subject: New Mod info for TH-78A
To: [e-mail]

I did some experimenting with my TH-78A micro-HT and here's what I found...

To "open up" the radio completely and provide both extended receive (300+ Mhz,
800-900Mhz) and out of band TX, you need to remove diode D3 and cut the green
wire jumper W1.  This has already been published.

However, I found out some other interesting stuff...

Cutting W1 by itself completes the Mars/CAP mod only (no extended RX, no out of
band TX)
Cutting W2 by itself allows extended receive, but no Mars/CAP or out of band TX
Cutting both, naturally, allows both.

Now, here's where it gets interesting...

If you remove diode D3 with both wires cut, extended RX is no longer possible.
To reenable extended RX you need to reconnect W2, which brings us back to the
original directions of *cut W1 and remove D3*.

As you can probably figure out, I went through each of these combinations
because I wanted to avoid doing micro-surgery to my trusty Kenwood....however,
I'm here to confirm the accuracy of the previously published mod docs.  If you
purchased your radio before July 1992, or so, this information may not apply to
you.  Contact Kenwood's service center with your serial number in hand to
confirm the proper mod technique.

USUAL DISCLAIMERS APPLY HERE...I WON'T TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACCURACY
OF THIS INFORMATION.  IF YOU FRY YOUR RIG, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM!

Doug Vetter, N2WOL

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 23:24:36 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!scipio.cyberstore.ca!yvr.cyberstore.ca![e-mail]
Subject: Obtaining a US callsign
To: [e-mail]

What are the requirements for getting a US callsign?  I currently have
a Canadian callsign.  Just curious.


Felix
--
Felix Ng - Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
[e-mail] / Fax: [phone] / VE7YDG / D.G.I.F. #8767

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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:55:03 +1200
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!waikato!auckland.ac.nz!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: PS Smith chart [where]
To: [e-mail]

Thanks again for all the replies to my request for a
postscript Smith chart. I've just queried the Australian
archie server (archie.au), and it came up with this
source:

Host cs.orst.edu

    Location: /pub/src/printers/ps
           FILE -rw-r--r--      21198  Jan 15 1991  smith.ps

There are other sites around the world as well, and you
can find them by using archie. This one
I verified by getting the file (caveat FTP-er: not
all smith.ps'es are Smith charts; the genuine article
in raw postscript form is around 21K in size, 11K or
so if it's Zipped).
Now I'm trying to figure out why I didn't use archie
in the first place.

Argh! I've got two brains. One's gotten lost and the
other's gone to look for it! 8~)

73,
Tony ZL1TTG

--
Tony Grimwood
ZL1TTG
School of Music
University of Auckland
Auckland
New Zealand                     GMT +12h

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Date: 10 Aug 1994 00:12:39 GMT
From: news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!usenet.ins.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: Question about power supply for HTX-202.
To: [e-mail]

(I redirected this to rec.radio.amateur.equipment.  Please send all
followups here only.  Thanks.)

In article <znr776465957k@crl>,
Dennis Rice <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I just bought (or am in the process of buying) a power supply for my
> HTX-202.  However the power supply is 13.8VDC and 3A.  I know the 202
> works fine at ~13.5VDC and 2A (car battery).  Will the slightly higher
> voltage and amperage cause a problem?

The voltage might, but it shouldn't really be a problem.  Check the 202's
specs for maximum voltage -- it's probably 14V or more.

The current rating of a power supply is a maximum.  Anything less is
generally OK, though some switching supplies specify a minimum load
current as well as a maximum.  How do you find out whether your HTX-202
will overload the supply?  Easy -- check the specs again.  This stuff
is always in the manual somewhere, usually near the beginning or the
end.

For reference, my Heath HW24HT dual-band handheld is rated to operate
on anything from 5.5 to 16V and draws up to 1.3A, depending on the
output power and the band.  Your power supply would work with it; in
fact, it can supply enough current for two radios like my Heath.

Oh, one more caveat: Be careful if it is a switching power supply.
Some switching supplies have large ripples at a couple of kilohertz
on their outputs.  The result can be a whine in a radio's output.  The
only way to see if a particular switching supply works well with a
particular radio is to try it out and request some signal reports.
Linear power supplies don't have this problem.

          Stephen

--
Stephen Trier           "Even if I wanted to practice my horn, it's at
[e-mail]          the bottom of the bathroom."
KG8IH                          - Dan Alt, hornist, during the CYWS
                   European performance tour 1994

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Date: 8 Aug 1994 20:54:01 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ceylon!news2.near.net!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc.harvard.edu!isr.harvard.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Thanks for all the help about improving my code speed
To: [e-mail]

I just wanted to express my appreciation for everyone who sent
E-mail to me, or who posted articles here for me.  Your advice
and suggestions have been very helpful, indeed.  If any of you
still have any tips for my improving the code speed, please send
yours to [e-mail].  I need all the help I can get!

73, Yuzuru Suzuki, AA1JA

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Date: 5 Aug 1994 22:48:33 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <31r3b6$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>.res
Subject : No Reason to Wait (was Re: Technician No Code)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Davin Bentti) writes:
>>
>>But can't I get my NCT passed and while my documents are on the way study
>>for
>>the Morse Code?  I thought I read I can take the 5wpm test _any_ time after
>>I passed the NCT test.  That way I thought I could get involved with ham
>>radio sooner, and expand as my skills grow.  Just because I take the NCT
>>dosn't _limit_ me from moving up, right?
>
>That's correct. The only consideration is that the FCC doesn't want more
>than one license application per applicant in the pipeline at once. That
>won't be an issue in upgrading from Tech to Tech Plus since all you need
>is the CSCE from the VE. But if you upgrade to General, you should wait
>until you get your Tech license before sending in the General paperwork.
>The VEC will normally hold your application in this case.
>
>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary

Gary

The fact that a license application is pending before the FCC should
NEVER be an issue to the applicant.  As long as she has certificates
^^^^^
of completion for all the elements already passed she may take the
next test.  As soon as they have their first license in hand  they
can operate with all the privleges they have earned.

The actual paperwork for their final license may take a while but
the VEC will handle it.  The applicant will have to send the VEC a
copy of the approperate license when each upgrade arrives, before
the FCC will be sent the next upgrade paperwork,  but it is not a
problem for any one.  With the long delays the FCC had been
experiencing we have seen some applicants with 3 seperate upgrades
pending.

So the message here is come and upgrade as soon as you are ready.
There is absolutly no reason to wait for any paperwork delays.

                Steve F
                W1GSL
                W5YI VE #1697

BTW...  Gary the FCC is now issuing Tech Plus licenses, so the upgrade
to Tech Plus is treated no differently than any other upgrade.

*******************************************************************************
Steve Finberg                        W1GSL                       [e-mail]
PO Box 82 MIT Br           Cambridge MA  02139-7082               617 258 3754
*******************************************************************************

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Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:28:07 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!news.Cerritos.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!nemo![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <3287n8$[e-mail]>Cer
Subject : Re: Car warrantee and 2m radio

In article <3287n8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

Re: the Toyota warranty:
>
>2. What happens to the poor ham operator who carries an HT with him,
>doesn't use it, but accidently parks next to my car and I key up with
>1500 watts?

Wouldn't the car body shield the car's computer from RF fields outside
the car? Or is 1500 watts too much, even for the car of steel (and plastic)?


Howard

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